Guest: Kevin Kelly, Co-Founder and Senior Maverick of WIRED magazine. His new book is Excellent Advice for Living: Wisdom I Wish I’d Known Earlier.

In a Nutshell: Back in 1969, one-hit wonders Zager and Evans reached the top of the Billboard Hot 100 with In the Year 2525. We use the provocative, playful, and, in some cases, quite prophetic questions raised in that song to dive into a wide-ranging conversation about technology, longevity, the future, and the meaning of life.


.Kevin Kelly and I discuss:

  • Will the human race be around in “2525,” and if so, what could it look like?
  • Different ways to think about longevity and health as the old “three-stage life” ends and more and more people reach age 100.
  • How what billionaires do with their time and wealth is a rule of thumb to predict what the rest of us will eventually do.
  • The speed of technology vs. the speed of biology.
  • The role of money in solving the global birth rate crisis.
  • How creating the “Un” version of something popular can help you stand out in a crowded marketplace.
  • Are we living in a simulation? Could AI create God? And a few other far-fetched questions that are still fun to think about.

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Please note, the featured image was created using Midjourney and the prompt: Author Kevin Kelly in the year 2525 in a surrealistic photo.